Calling it out.

Thank you for sharing this - it is sad that such attitudes/behaviours are prevalent and shows misuse of Scripture. We all need to grasp Jesus’ heart and understand what love truly is ( 1 Cor 13), beyond (or perhaps in spite of) what gets taught in church. I have to add that it isn’t a men-only issue - although not using Scripture to justify it, some women exhibit similar behaviours. As Christians, kindness and integrity should be a given, but sadly I’ve not always found this to be the case.

Lucy Peppiat has some really illuminating things to say about the ' household codes ' verses. I'd encourage everyone to listen to that viewpoint too.

I 100 percent agree! I recently shared a quote from a book I was reading that I thought was profound about being careful about turning virginity into an idol and some of the comments I got from other men were awful! I was told that I was encouraging sin and that I was reading brainrot literature that was doing more harm than fornication and that men should only be seeking out virgin women who have never sinned sexually. I was disgusted and disappointed!☹️

You’re right. I’ve been alarmed by some of the posts on Salt Social - they seem to harbour such resentment towards women for so much as holding an opinion. Salt seems to encourage that (and does, since they do not moderate content in a way that protects women).

A lot of men here have ran from typical dating apps where words such as 'misogynist' are thrown casually. Some face extreme solitude. While women can easily get attention and/or validation on social media, let alone on dating apps, for men such appreciation is only given to the most successful ones. Many young men have turned conservative and have started reaching back out to Christian values because they have realised that their grandparents were less lonely, valued for simply being themselves.

THIS! And so many good comments here! 👏 Thank you God for discernment, and protecting your daughters. ❤️ God bless everyone!

Christ laid down His life for His bride . As Christians, we should follow his example . Submission is easy when love is applied .

22 Wives, subject yourselves to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, … So husbands also ought to love their own wives as their own bodies…

You're so sweet & gentle Kati; Id say there are some really toxic profiles on here! 'Wives submit to your husband' is an abusers favourite Bible verse. Stastically 25-30% of Christian women are subject to DA and often the perpetrator is protected by the church on the basis of that horrendously misunderstood/ applied verse. Anyone looking for a submissive or proverbs 31 wife is an absolute red flag to me. I'm going to do a post about 'Clares law' in due course in the hopes it'll help someone.

My parents modelled the Biblical Christian marriage well and I grew up supporting Biblical Christian womanhood. However, difficulties come where there is an imbalance in the lack of teaching of men about their role in loving her as Christ loved the Church and laid down His life for her. A Christian woman can safely submit to a genuine Christian man who loves her like Christ.

Hello Kati, Thank you for your thoughtful post and I agree with your comments. Marriage is a covenant between a man and woman with promises made before God. Many forget this essential truth that it is a partnership before God and to each other. It is a wise man who listens to the counsel of a Godly Christian woman sent to be his helper and who prays with her daily to seek God’s guidance together. God also calls him to put her first and to protect her….

On this same topic, the best thing I’ve learned somewhat recently is that the Hebrew word used in Genesis to describe Eve as a helper is the word “ezer”. The same word is used many times to describe God as a helper and rescuer. Women are made in the image of God to display His character as a helper. This word holds power and strength and indicates that Eve is able to help Adam in ways he can’t help himself. Really beautiful.

Everyone forgets the first verse Ephesians 5:21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

Women will naturally uphold, encourage and submit to the proper husband the Lord has sent to them. And that submission comes when the husband has shown a good character, an ability to lead and provide properly, and has not broken the trust of their partner. Women are still meant to also bring correcting and sharpen their partner. The right couple who is ultimately steered by God is going to be able to recognize this.

Is this like what comes first: chicken or the egg problem? What's the confusion here?

I agree. That's why the first question in my profile is "have you truly read Proverbs 31?"

Whilst wives are called to submit to husbands, that goes hand in hand with the husband loving his wife to the degree you mention (Eph 5:25) When a guy makes a point about submitting on their profile... although technically right... it does come across as controlling. And controlling is not what the Bible is calling for here.