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Isabel - Team SALT
Mon Nov 11 2024

Dating and politics 😳

If someone votes for a different party to you, would that be a deal-breaker in dating? How do you navigate talking politics in dating?

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Josh

It can be, it also depends on their reasons though, if someone is voting for a party I disagree with on economical reasons alone because she thinks they would do a better job or maybe they want to provide more funding to a particular industry that's not unethical she is involved in, then it's not a deal breaker. But if it's for pro-abortion/euthanasia reasons, etc, no way.....

Tue Nov 19 2024
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Oasis's avatar
Oasis

I have gotten to a point where I look to the government of God. If prayer is put first before voting then what is the point of arguing?

Tue Nov 19 2024
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Nish's avatar
Nish

Yes it can be a deal breaker but depends on how seriously one takes politics. If the person is passionate about any of the 2 parties then it would be difficult to get along together. So a good question would be to ask the person, "What do they think about politics?"

Mon Nov 18 2024
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Sarah's avatar
Sarah

Some interesting conversation here. I'm happy to see that everyone is being pretty respectful. I thought I would never date a conservative voter, until I actually did. I think what's more important than the party someone votes for is the values behind it. I found that actually we had similar hopes but just different ways of getting to the end goal. (I obviously thought mine were better!) But definitely wasn't a deal breaker. I think it's probably easier in the UK in lots of ways than the US.

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Kai's avatar
Kai

The thing about is that politics is tied together with your values as person & your world view I believe . So I it vital to know where each of you stand in that sense.

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Tonya's avatar
Tonya

It really depends on the political party. I am okay with UK political parties at the moment (but have my preference) don't carry a party card/membership but I do my civic duty by voting. A deal-breaker would be anyone who is a member of, or supports, the American un-Democratic party because of its history, link with the KKK, crime bills, pushing/mandating current evil ideologies and abortion. Not to talk of the recent internal coup that they thought went unnoticed. IMHO. 😊

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Peter's avatar
Peter

On a tangent note, today I learned that our British friends across the pond like to use "different ... to", while Americans prefer "different ... than". Quite curious, isn't it? 🤔

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Peter's avatar
Peter

As for voting, I think we have the liberty to vote for anyone we wish, while keeping in mind that "our kingdom is not of this world." That our true citizenship is of heaven. The worldly power structures are *at best* a faint simulacrum of the glory that will be revealed in the regeneration, upon the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. Blessings to everyone.

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Brian's avatar
Brian

Trump for me 🙂

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Most likely, but it depends. How do I navigate? Just be honest & upfront on my views. In the US we have the 2 major parties, Democrat & Republican (& those who vote Independent, but I would say that doesn't happen very often). I like to think of myself as Independent, but I'm very conservative so I usually vote Republican. Typically those that vote either way has very different views on major issues(ex: abortion, immigration, marriage, etc), which is why I say it's probably a deal-beaker for me.

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Linda's avatar
Linda

I’m live in Houston, Texas and voted for Trump

Sun Nov 17 2024
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Rory's avatar
Rory

I do know of a UK Christian politician who represents one party, and her husband is a supporter of the other. That could never be me!

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Colin

I’d struggle with someone who had gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. No parties in the UK campaign on a Christian values platform, so always consider what is the least worst option from that perspective I also think which option will give the markets most freedom as this will be better for living standards and overall wealth growth. I’d couldn’t date someone who was on the hard left and leaning towards communism as these have been proven to be failed ideas.

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

I agree no liberals for me

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

I left the word “not” before the word “mean” in the last post. Christians need to guard against wolves in sheeps clothing across every aspect of society. We are also called to be salt of the earth.

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Andy's avatar
Andy

I’m in the UK and I wouldn’t be bothered if anyone voted for one of our main parties, Labour, conservative, Liberal Democrat’s or even the Green Party. I couldn’t however date some one who voted for a far right party. White suprematist or neo nazi party as this goes against my believes and basic biblical teaching that we are all equal in the eyes of god

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

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Fri Nov 15 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Neo nazis white supremacists sounds like the democrats to me

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Gemmi's avatar
Gemmi

@Andy Thanking God for your political and scriptural influenced perspective !! You ARE salt.

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Far right are not neo nazi or white supremacists the kkk founded by democrats are white supremists the nazis were socalists thats what the left wants the democrats push socalism comunism etc the same stuff the nazis wanted so thats far left not far right

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Andy's avatar
Andy

@Jeffrey @Jeffrey I never said far right were neo nazi? I listed different groups that I wouldn’t date someone if she was a member of, you will see that there is a full stop after the word party, I’m sorry for the confusion 👍

Mon Nov 18 2024
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Trump 😍😍😍

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

@Darius Nathan yes he won !

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Gemmi's avatar
Gemmi

Well, if their political view was in direct violation to Gods scriptures 😳 then it's a definite NO. From ME ! Such parties include exclusive advocacy of a homosexual or lesbian only political party and shooter hooters gun riot party or abortion, euthanasia party etc. It's a sign of wolf in sheep's clothing for me too !!

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

@Gemmi yes agree with you Gemmi and spot on!

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

So no to liberals and the democrat party totally agree

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Gemmi's avatar
Gemmi

@Jeffrey heya so Jeffrey; both Evelyn n I reside in Australia 🇦🇺 atm so u need to understand that we are the Commonwealth alliance so NOT related to USA politics in ANYWAY ! THANK GOD. For that. Although we do have Liberals and Labour party here. What is your political landscape in USA ? you sound post tertiary educated like myself so enlighten us with your professor hat 🧑‍🎓ta.

Wed Nov 20 2024
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Gemmi's avatar
Gemmi

Brother in Christ and fellow Gentile [ Romans 11:17 ] whom has been grafted into Yeshua family; May the fruit of your spirit reflect Christ to the ethnic humanity [ 1 John 4:8 ] read TRACED by Nathaniel Jeanson; be free to love [John 8: 36 ] and set others captives free [Isaiah 61:1] and forgive so you can be forgiven. [Colossians 3: 13]

Wed Nov 20 2024
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Gemmi's avatar
Gemmi

JUST BE aware of how you present; and to take care in the future when you "speak on behalf of someone" else on their post and make such imbecile error it can be seen as offensive, narcissistic and rude to the wrong person- or that you have a mental or intellectual disability just warning you; especially if you are not equally educated in academia ! This is handy advice from a legal eagle trained to be tactful.

Wed Nov 20 2024
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Matt's avatar
Matt

Depends. Are they a centrist? Probably fine. Extremist in the wrong direction? Probably not.

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Which way is the wrong direction ?

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Jacki's avatar
Jacki

I don’t think I could date a Tory

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

Yes, I tend to agree with you Adam.

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Jason's avatar
Jason

An essential in this topic that I aim to learn about people's individual views : Do you allow your opinions to determine how to interpret the Bible and the World around you? Or do you allow the plain-to-read universal truth in the Bible to determine how to think and feel about the World around you? If everything is relative and subjective without any absolute truth, then there is hardly any point in debating the particulars besides utility of how to live at peace with each other

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Adam's avatar
Adam

I've heard several on this thread say similar things, but I would say the key is: what is the godly basis behind the way you vote? I think a conversation that starts there will tell you whether or not you have a dealbreaker situation.

Thu Nov 14 2024
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David's avatar
David

Of course both in a couple will never fully agree on everything, but if the gap is too large it will become a deal breaker. Personally I think I couldn't date a woman who is strongly opposed to vaccines or not concerned by climate change, for example.

Thu Nov 14 2024
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David's avatar
David

With that said, politics can become a deal breaker in dating if the person is actually subscribing to a specific worldview (what are his views on human nature, human values like justice, and paradigms). While it is important to consider them, There is the tendency for people to have a sense of political dogmatism in secondary / tertiary issues. It would not be worth it to make these as a "deal breaker".

Thu Nov 14 2024
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David's avatar
David

Maybe to start, consider from Thomas Sowell's helpful advice — politics is about trade offs, not idealistic solutions. And the reason why there are trade offs in politics is because human nature and other facts on values (e.g. justice) has always been limited. People often assume that they can be moral crusaders in politics because they feel unlimited to achieve any political outcome. (Do not mistaken me for implying that a moral compass is irrelevant)

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Taylor's avatar
Taylor

Spicy Topic! Unpopular opinion alert: just like in Hosea’s life God has every right to instruct us on who we are to marry. I can’t imagine any of us putting an unfaithful active-prostitute on our list. God does give us a choice. But what God plans is always better. Be careful not to put what’s in your heart as the only sign from God: otherwise you might fall into a trap your heart sets for you. But God can call us to make difficult decisions.

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Zoe's avatar
Zoe

Not sure it would be a complete deal breaker. I think I would need to know the main reasons and how deep they are into the politics. Most important thing is to be aligned with the Word of God. If the government are actively telling us to do things that are against the Word, then God says we have His permission to not obey them. The Word of God is the we should be voting for. Not people 🤷‍♀️

Wed Nov 13 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Agreed

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

@Zoe Hello and thanks for posting. With respect, have you read all of the Scriptures about obeying those in government and authority. We all need to be careful about making generalisations … an individual person’s interpretation about what the Bible says can be flawed leading to poor judgements. Hope that helps.

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

I think it is a deal breaker 🥹 I still love people on the other side—don’t get me wrong! But it would be really hard to be in a romantic relationship with someone who sees what the other side is doing and is okay with it (whether you are left or right since nowadays they are so opposite). There is a possibility they are just deceived but after conversations and fact checks, if the person still doesn’t have the same beliefs as you, it would be really difficult for me personally.

Wed Nov 13 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Same

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Kati's avatar
Kati

I agree with @Evelyn .. tricky when people are strongly politically affiliated, that in itself rings alarm bells to me. Understanding why someone votes how they do could be a good way to get to know each other more though, so I think it’s pretty important to do… respectfully.

Wed Nov 13 2024
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Juan's avatar
Juan

Political affiliation isnt a deal-breaker for me. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. It does become a problem when it becomes your whole identity though. I would also break it off if my partner said they couldn't be friends or be open to being around those of a different party.

Tue Nov 12 2024
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

This an interesting question. In my view it goes beyond the party to include questions about policy and leadership. Does the candidate and their party’s policies align with Godly Christian values? If the candidate says they are a Christian do they live like a Christian? So far as is possible a Christian couple should align on those issues.

Tue Nov 12 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

The republican party platform is closer to biblical values then most outers of the major parties now a few 3rd parties are fairly biblical too

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Yes especially if shes a democrat democrat and Christianity are not compatable she should be a conservitve republican at least that party supprts God and the bible the best /most

Tue Nov 12 2024
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Morgan's avatar
Morgan

@Jeffrey yeah

Tue Nov 12 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

@Morgan 👍

Tue Nov 12 2024
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Alex's avatar
Alex

Depends if either person has a dominant nature, which is always the man when he's in his natural state. I immediately left my last gf over this.

Mon Nov 11 2024
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Kati's avatar
Kati

@Alex We can be thankful that Christ interrupts and changes our nature and natural state, replaces it with Himself.

Wed Nov 13 2024
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Rob's avatar
Rob

It depends on their reasoning for how they vote and their attitude towards other parties. If they are staunch one way or another then that’s likely a dealbreaker. I’ve heard people say “if you vote … then you can’t be a Christian”, but that is an unfair blanket judgement - there has to be a willingness to listen and pray for those in power (whether we agree/like them or not).

Mon Nov 11 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Im prity sure the democrat party are not Christian based on there unbiblical platfrom

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Rob's avatar
Rob

That is a huge assumption. I’m in the UK and don’t envy the choice US voters had to make. Whilst the headline policies may have made it obvious, leaders should also show integrity and honesty, which are Christian values. The UK election wasn’t an easy decision either. Many a believer prays and wrestles with who to vote for - better to show grace and listen, as we can always learn something.

Thu Nov 14 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

@Rob well trump & vance talked about God Jesus christ etc while kamala told christians who said jesus is lord/king they were at the wrong raily . Which canadate you think was more pro Christianity the guy who prays with pastors sold a bible and talks about Jesus or the woman who says go somewhere else you Christian and wants to kill babies via abortion and supports all the unholy LGBTQ junk

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Rob's avatar
Rob

@Jeffrey like I said, the decision seemed obvious. The problem though, is that just because someone talks about Jesus and appears to be supportive of Christianity, doesn’t mean they are genuine - Matthew 15:8 “These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me”. We need to be praying for Trump to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus and true repentance, so that he leads with integrity. Imagine the testimony and true witness he would be if that happened.

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

@Rob i never said genuine .im talking about which party values or candidates positions line up more with scripture . It doesn't matter if it's a true Christian or not as the bible says his word will not come back void . I personally think after the almost dying from an assassination attempted multiple times he has got saved you can tell he has changed in speeches style and even rhetoric plus more accepting of folks on all sides

Fri Nov 15 2024
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

@Rob Spot on Rob and I totally agree. Just because someone says they uphold Christian values and are a Christian does mean they are and it just doesn’t apply to politics either. Quality leadership is what is needed and given with a strong servant heart.

Sat Nov 16 2024
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Louisa's avatar
Louisa

Depends on which party. Some parties I can accept some not…

Mon Nov 11 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

Which ones?

Tue Nov 12 2024
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Matityahu's avatar
Matityahu

If the other person actively follows Christ and knows how to discern good from evil, I think the preferred political party wont differ too much...although no political party is perfect, some are really delusional and others are almost extremists. I tend to not give too much attention to politics.

Wed Nov 13 2024
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Jeffrey's avatar
Jeffrey

@Matityahu delusional and extremist = left wing liberals and democrats

Thu Nov 14 2024
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