It can be, it also depends on their reasons though, if someone is voting for a party I disagree with on economical reasons alone because she thinks they would do a better job or maybe they want to provide more funding to a particular industry that's not unethical she is involved in, then it's not a deal breaker. But if it's for pro-abortion/euthanasia reasons, etc, no way.....
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If someone votes for a different party to you, would that be a deal-breaker in dating? How do you navigate talking politics in dating?
I have gotten to a point where I look to the government of God. If prayer is put first before voting then what is the point of arguing?
Yes it can be a deal breaker but depends on how seriously one takes politics. If the person is passionate about any of the 2 parties then it would be difficult to get along together. So a good question would be to ask the person, "What do they think about politics?"
Some interesting conversation here. I'm happy to see that everyone is being pretty respectful. I thought I would never date a conservative voter, until I actually did. I think what's more important than the party someone votes for is the values behind it. I found that actually we had similar hopes but just different ways of getting to the end goal. (I obviously thought mine were better!) But definitely wasn't a deal breaker. I think it's probably easier in the UK in lots of ways than the US.
The thing about is that politics is tied together with your values as person & your world view I believe . So I it vital to know where each of you stand in that sense.
It really depends on the political party. I am okay with UK political parties at the moment (but have my preference) don't carry a party card/membership but I do my civic duty by voting. A deal-breaker would be anyone who is a member of, or supports, the American un-Democratic party because of its history, link with the KKK, crime bills, pushing/mandating current evil ideologies and abortion. Not to talk of the recent internal coup that they thought went unnoticed. IMHO. đ
On a tangent note, today I learned that our British friends across the pond like to use "different ... to", while Americans prefer "different ... than". Quite curious, isn't it? đ¤
As for voting, I think we have the liberty to vote for anyone we wish, while keeping in mind that "our kingdom is not of this world." That our true citizenship is of heaven. The worldly power structures are *at best* a faint simulacrum of the glory that will be revealed in the regeneration, upon the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. Blessings to everyone.
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Most likely, but it depends. How do I navigate? Just be honest & upfront on my views. In the US we have the 2 major parties, Democrat & Republican (& those who vote Independent, but I would say that doesn't happen very often). I like to think of myself as Independent, but I'm very conservative so I usually vote Republican. Typically those that vote either way has very different views on major issues(ex: abortion, immigration, marriage, etc), which is why I say it's probably a deal-beaker for me.
Iâm live in Houston, Texas and voted for Trump
I do know of a UK Christian politician who represents one party, and her husband is a supporter of the other. That could never be me!
Iâd struggle with someone who had gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. No parties in the UK campaign on a Christian values platform, so always consider what is the least worst option from that perspective I also think which option will give the markets most freedom as this will be better for living standards and overall wealth growth. Iâd couldnât date someone who was on the hard left and leaning towards communism as these have been proven to be failed ideas.
I agree no liberals for me
I left the word ânotâ before the word âmeanâ in the last post. Christians need to guard against wolves in sheeps clothing across every aspect of society. We are also called to be salt of the earth.
Iâm in the UK and I wouldnât be bothered if anyone voted for one of our main parties, Labour, conservative, Liberal Democratâs or even the Green Party. I couldnât however date some one who voted for a far right party. White suprematist or neo nazi party as this goes against my believes and basic biblical teaching that we are all equal in the eyes of god
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Neo nazis white supremacists sounds like the democrats to me
@Andy Thanking God for your political and scriptural influenced perspective !! You ARE salt.
Far right are not neo nazi or white supremacists the kkk founded by democrats are white supremists the nazis were socalists thats what the left wants the democrats push socalism comunism etc the same stuff the nazis wanted so thats far left not far right
@Jeffrey @Jeffrey I never said far right were neo nazi? I listed different groups that I wouldnât date someone if she was a member of, you will see that there is a full stop after the word party, Iâm sorry for the confusion đ
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@Darius Nathan yes he won !
Well, if their political view was in direct violation to Gods scriptures đł then it's a definite NO. From ME ! Such parties include exclusive advocacy of a homosexual or lesbian only political party and shooter hooters gun riot party or abortion, euthanasia party etc. It's a sign of wolf in sheep's clothing for me too !!
@Gemmi yes agree with you Gemmi and spot on!
So no to liberals and the democrat party totally agree
@Jeffrey heya so Jeffrey; both Evelyn n I reside in Australia đŚđş atm so u need to understand that we are the Commonwealth alliance so NOT related to USA politics in ANYWAY ! THANK GOD. For that. Although we do have Liberals and Labour party here. What is your political landscape in USA ? you sound post tertiary educated like myself so enlighten us with your professor hat đ§âđta.
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JUST BE aware of how you present; and to take care in the future when you "speak on behalf of someone" else on their post and make such imbecile error it can be seen as offensive, narcissistic and rude to the wrong person- or that you have a mental or intellectual disability just warning you; especially if you are not equally educated in academia ! This is handy advice from a legal eagle trained to be tactful.
Depends. Are they a centrist? Probably fine. Extremist in the wrong direction? Probably not.
Which way is the wrong direction ?
I donât think I could date a Tory
Yes, I tend to agree with you Adam.
An essential in this topic that I aim to learn about people's individual views : Do you allow your opinions to determine how to interpret the Bible and the World around you? Or do you allow the plain-to-read universal truth in the Bible to determine how to think and feel about the World around you? If everything is relative and subjective without any absolute truth, then there is hardly any point in debating the particulars besides utility of how to live at peace with each other
I've heard several on this thread say similar things, but I would say the key is: what is the godly basis behind the way you vote? I think a conversation that starts there will tell you whether or not you have a dealbreaker situation.
Of course both in a couple will never fully agree on everything, but if the gap is too large it will become a deal breaker. Personally I think I couldn't date a woman who is strongly opposed to vaccines or not concerned by climate change, for example.
With that said, politics can become a deal breaker in dating if the person is actually subscribing to a specific worldview (what are his views on human nature, human values like justice, and paradigms). While it is important to consider them, There is the tendency for people to have a sense of political dogmatism in secondary / tertiary issues. It would not be worth it to make these as a "deal breaker".
Maybe to start, consider from Thomas Sowell's helpful advice â politics is about trade offs, not idealistic solutions. And the reason why there are trade offs in politics is because human nature and other facts on values (e.g. justice) has always been limited. People often assume that they can be moral crusaders in politics because they feel unlimited to achieve any political outcome. (Do not mistaken me for implying that a moral compass is irrelevant)
Spicy Topic! Unpopular opinion alert: just like in Hoseaâs life God has every right to instruct us on who we are to marry. I canât imagine any of us putting an unfaithful active-prostitute on our list. God does give us a choice. But what God plans is always better. Be careful not to put whatâs in your heart as the only sign from God: otherwise you might fall into a trap your heart sets for you. But God can call us to make difficult decisions.
Not sure it would be a complete deal breaker. I think I would need to know the main reasons and how deep they are into the politics. Most important thing is to be aligned with the Word of God. If the government are actively telling us to do things that are against the Word, then God says we have His permission to not obey them. The Word of God is the we should be voting for. Not people đ¤ˇââď¸
Agreed
@Zoe Hello and thanks for posting. With respect, have you read all of the Scriptures about obeying those in government and authority. We all need to be careful about making generalisations ⌠an individual personâs interpretation about what the Bible says can be flawed leading to poor judgements. Hope that helps.
I think it is a deal breaker 𼚠I still love people on the other sideâdonât get me wrong! But it would be really hard to be in a romantic relationship with someone who sees what the other side is doing and is okay with it (whether you are left or right since nowadays they are so opposite). There is a possibility they are just deceived but after conversations and fact checks, if the person still doesnât have the same beliefs as you, it would be really difficult for me personally.
Same
I agree with @Evelyn .. tricky when people are strongly politically affiliated, that in itself rings alarm bells to me. Understanding why someone votes how they do could be a good way to get to know each other more though, so I think itâs pretty important to do⌠respectfully.
Political affiliation isnt a deal-breaker for me. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. It does become a problem when it becomes your whole identity though. I would also break it off if my partner said they couldn't be friends or be open to being around those of a different party.
This an interesting question. In my view it goes beyond the party to include questions about policy and leadership. Does the candidate and their partyâs policies align with Godly Christian values? If the candidate says they are a Christian do they live like a Christian? So far as is possible a Christian couple should align on those issues.
The republican party platform is closer to biblical values then most outers of the major parties now a few 3rd parties are fairly biblical too
Yes especially if shes a democrat democrat and Christianity are not compatable she should be a conservitve republican at least that party supprts God and the bible the best /most
@Jeffrey yeah
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Depends if either person has a dominant nature, which is always the man when he's in his natural state. I immediately left my last gf over this.
@Alex We can be thankful that Christ interrupts and changes our nature and natural state, replaces it with Himself.
It depends on their reasoning for how they vote and their attitude towards other parties. If they are staunch one way or another then thatâs likely a dealbreaker. Iâve heard people say âif you vote ⌠then you canât be a Christianâ, but that is an unfair blanket judgement - there has to be a willingness to listen and pray for those in power (whether we agree/like them or not).
Im prity sure the democrat party are not Christian based on there unbiblical platfrom
That is a huge assumption. Iâm in the UK and donât envy the choice US voters had to make. Whilst the headline policies may have made it obvious, leaders should also show integrity and honesty, which are Christian values. The UK election wasnât an easy decision either. Many a believer prays and wrestles with who to vote for - better to show grace and listen, as we can always learn something.
@Rob well trump & vance talked about God Jesus christ etc while kamala told christians who said jesus is lord/king they were at the wrong raily . Which canadate you think was more pro Christianity the guy who prays with pastors sold a bible and talks about Jesus or the woman who says go somewhere else you Christian and wants to kill babies via abortion and supports all the unholy LGBTQ junk
@Jeffrey like I said, the decision seemed obvious. The problem though, is that just because someone talks about Jesus and appears to be supportive of Christianity, doesnât mean they are genuine - Matthew 15:8 âThese people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from meâ. We need to be praying for Trump to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus and true repentance, so that he leads with integrity. Imagine the testimony and true witness he would be if that happened.
@Rob i never said genuine .im talking about which party values or candidates positions line up more with scripture . It doesn't matter if it's a true Christian or not as the bible says his word will not come back void . I personally think after the almost dying from an assassination attempted multiple times he has got saved you can tell he has changed in speeches style and even rhetoric plus more accepting of folks on all sides
@Rob Spot on Rob and I totally agree. Just because someone says they uphold Christian values and are a Christian does mean they are and it just doesnât apply to politics either. Quality leadership is what is needed and given with a strong servant heart.
Depends on which party. Some parties I can accept some notâŚ
Which ones?
If the other person actively follows Christ and knows how to discern good from evil, I think the preferred political party wont differ too much...although no political party is perfect, some are really delusional and others are almost extremists. I tend to not give too much attention to politics.
@Matityahu delusional and extremist = left wing liberals and democrats