When you want kids and your other half doesn't. It's a make or break situation.
Dating different denomination? ⛪
Do you reckon a relationship could work if you are different denominations? What are the beliefs that you could not shift on and the things that would make or break the relationship?
@Brian You should never go off false ideas… because of the following logic: “If fake or counterfeit bank 🏦 notes 💵 exist it’s because real money with real bank notes exist”. If you worked at the bank you’re not taught about fake or counterfeit notes. You’re taught about genuine notes so you’re really familiar with the TRUTH. When a fake note comes in you’d know straightaway that it’s fake because you’re so used to the truth. Familiarise yourself and go off the TRUTH.
If There is one God , one bible ... There was meant to be one truth , one denomination of Christianity, one belief and one teaching . Unfortunately Satan just like the first coming of Jesus has come in our time today and twisted the true words of God with Man made interpretations and teachings of the word
Confession and communion (liturgy) are the most powerful things on Earth. I'm sorry some denominations don't practice this. I do believe that prayer and a relationship with God are even more important but I would never ever leave my church which practices these things and also has saints to follow in their footsteps as examples and for friendship for 'He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living'.
Nuestra relación con nuestro DIOS SANTÍSIMO 💫si es religión. Incluso en algunas versiones de Biblia todavía tienen la palabra religión. Hay mucha ignorancia al respecto. Basta con saber el significado etimológico de las palabras. Y tal cómo está en la Biblia a los seguidores de nuestro DIOS GLORIOSO JESÚS CRISTO ♥️ se nos llama Cristianos
Relationship with Christ is not a religion
Es una denominación presbiteriana donde la manera de gobierno de la Iglesia Locar es distinto dado que es atraves de ancianos y se decide popularmente los diaconos por ejemplo
My fellowship is non denominational. And personally I think that relationships can have problems either way (some may or not go to the same church etc) so it's important to have a firm foundation in Christ for the marriage as a whole.
I believe it could work or better said if you truly seek and follow Jesus, the starting point doesn't matter. You will stick to God's word the bible and some practice will naturally be filtered out then it's about your denomination to be able to correct else you have to leave because you know it is wrong and no change is in sight. It's not about tradition/religiosity it's about the truth of God.
Catholic here, of course I would prefer a Catholic but I realize that diffrerent people of different denominations have different strengths. I was Reformed for years and I appreciate their strong robust systematic theology and for EOs I appreciate their strong view of history like we Catholics do. It can work but it will depend on the circumstances. I'm open to any trinitarian believer that has a strong view of scripture.
My preference would be same belief for instance I don't believe Pentecostal I believe Christianity cause Pentecostal according to my understanding of the word was being celebrated by those that didn't receive the Holy Spirit and on that pentecostal day it then happened to be the same day people spoke in tongues all I'm saying I think it will not work for me unless we have the same beliefs if that makes sense at all
@Teeno Pentecostals place more emphasis on the Holy Spirit (Jesus told his Disciples in Acts 1:8 that they would receive power when the Holy Spirit falls on them, and become witnesses to the ends of the Earth). Speaking in tongues is one of the Spiritual gifts (as seen in Acts2) and Paul refers to it in his letters - but Pentecostals disagree on whether everyone should speak in tongues as a sign of baptism in the Spirit.
@Teeno Sorry ran out of space - yes we have to have compatibility in a relationship, but we are all on a journey of learning and walking with God, none of us have it all worked out. “Iron sharpens iron” and it’s through healthy communication that we grow.
@Rob non Pentecostals and historical churches translate tongues as language. In Acts 2 if you see the *context* it shows Jews from several nations surprised to see Galileans speaking foreign languages they never learnt.
@Brian You are right within this context (Acts) regarding earthly foreign languages. Obviously, under Corinthians 14:2 that would not apply, because the bible also talks about a heavenly language (tongue).
@Brian I grew up Anglican where there was little teaching on the Holy Spirit and Acts 2. Yes, context is super important and even in KJV, it’s clear that the Holy Spirit was involved and - as Jude mentioned with Corinthians 14, Paul tells us to earnestly desire spiritual gifts and teaches about tongues. The real point though, is none of us have this all figured out and it’s too easy to dismiss someone based on a denominational label.
@Rob @Brian Just to be clear 1 Corinthians 14:2 talks about the language (tongue) being spoken to God, as a mystery, and not to men.
@Jude buddy, thanks for explaining that in the right way. This topic brings out the "my denomination is better than yours because of a..b or c" crowd.
@Stan haha I got you bruv 😎 @Sarah does post some though provoking topics - I like it. Keep them coming.
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@Rob I agree with you rob 🙂 Especially when you say we on the same journey serving the Lord
@Teeno Thanks Teeno - hopefully what’s been shared has been helpful :)
@Jude @Rob thanks for the replies guys. Glossolalia is more recently incorporated into Christian denominations. It used to be only reported among certain Catholic mystics and breakaway groups. Check out the Gift of Tongues Project by Charles A Sullivan for a breakdown of historical reports of the gift of tongues.
@Brian Glad you’re researching. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to anyone but personally I don’t believe in the babbling in churches. However, as the scriptures show in SEVERAL passages, EXCLUDING the book of Acts, there is such a thing called “speaking in tongues” as a spiritual gift to speak in heavenly languages to God. I can see it as a non-denominational Christian.
@Jude What verses?
@Brian Apart from 1 Corinthians 14:2, I find Romans 8:26 very interesting because IN MY OPINION, this verse tells us of the CONDITIONS for the Holy Spirit to INTERVENE. I don’t think the Holy Spirit “takes over”. I think we would surrender to Him freely. We “collaborate” with Him.
@Jude Romas 9: 23 [internal groaning] “25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we .. wait for it. 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered [lit. non spoken]. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, …” This seems to refer to internal workings of the Holy Spirit, not audible utterances or babbling.
@Brian 1 Cor 14:9-11 “ unless you produce intelligible speech by the tongue, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will just be talking to the air. 10 There are, perhaps, a great many kinds of languages in the world, and none is incapable of meaning. 11 So if I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be unintelligible” Seems very much to be referring to actual earthly languages.
@Brian Oxford Dictionary. groaning adjective 1. denoting a deep inarticulate sound conveying pain, despair, pleasure, etc. "he made groaning sounds and took laboured breaths" 2. denoting a low creaking sound made by an object under pressure. "the pillar gave a huge groaning noise and crumbled" Common word is SOUND. I’m not sure how you interpret “inaudible”
@Brian Corinthians 14, in this case, talks about the requirement for someone else to interpret. Seems very much that the message needs to be provided to 2 people. It’s like you going on a date with a girl and she tells you “The Lord told me you need yo marry me”. What you should reply with is: “The Lord didn’t tell me. We BOTH should have received the memo… I haven’t received mine yet”
@Brian “cannot be uttered” doesn’t mean “inaudible” it means “cannot be articulated” French version below ⬇️ shows this in a better way. If you understand another language try looking it up. 26 De même aussi l'Esprit nous aide dans notre faiblesse, car nous ne savons pas ce qu'il nous convient de demander dans nos prières. Mais l'Esprit lui-même intercède par des soupirs inexprimables;
@Brian “inaudible groaning” is like “circular square” - 2 contradicting words put together.
@Jude Doesn’t ‘soupirs inexprimibles” not mean exactly the same, that these are feelings that cannot be expressed, articulated or even uttered/spoken/or voiced? I’ve read it in Spanish and German and it says the same (indecible and unaussprechlich, ie. unspeakable). Ergo, the feeling/deeply held emotion that the Holy Spirit is transmitting on our behalf is transmitted to God inside of us, spiritually, towards him in the heavens, not audibly, outside in a worship session.
@Jude For someone who isn’t enthusiastic about glossolalia in church you’re making a dogged defence of it. Paul clearly is saying that there are better and more useful gifts to seek rather than speaking in tongues/foreign languages.
@Brian I never said in a worship session. The bible doesn’t say it either. Romans 8 can happen in private, under the conditions mentioned… As it was the case for Hannah in the OLD TESTAMENT - MAYBE. Cannot confirm or deny that but the conditions seem to be present. Again, “internal/inaudible groaning” is a “circular square” case where by definition the 2 words contradict. Oxford dictionary - utter - put into words. “Cannot be uttered” = “Cannot be put into words”
@Brian Corinthians 14:2: For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. To who: God Is it an earthly language: No Why? No one can understand. Does he speak 🗣? Yes Makes SOUND? Yes Utter? makes audible sounds, like groaning, which cannot but into words from any earthly language.
@Jude *cannot be put
@Brian It’s not about being enthusiastic, it’s about seeking and telling the truth. The truth is that, based on the logic and reasoning from the text in Corinthians and Romans, there exists such a thing called “speaking in tongues” as a heavenly language to God which no one can understand. I never said that other spiritual gifts are not more important. I also never said that you need to speak in that heavenly language to be a Christian.
@Brian I find it interesting how you went off a false idea from the book of Acts to try and make a claim that “speaking in tongues” as a heavenly language to God is a fallacy and doesn’t exist at all.
@Jude I understand it as speaking in foreign languages or speaking in unutterable groans. Have you had a look at the guy I mentioned? Prolly not. But I quoted him because him being a Pentecostal seems to
@Brian … argue that speaking in tongues is actually about actual languages. And that pursuing or promoting glossolalia could be unhelpful. Most denominations agree that tongues are (real) languages and the miraculous and impressive thing was having (presumably) ignorant Galileans speaking in several foreign languages. But I guess we could continue debating for ever. Thanks for the exchange.
@Brian No, I haven’t looked up the guy you mentioned…but I was raised Pentecostal and I’m the first to say that the babbling In churches, in my opinion, is not what the bible talks about. That’s how I researched the topic to try and understand if “speaking in tongues” is a real thing. As far as I have discerned the truth, it is - it happens to few individuals under specific circumstances and if there were an assembly of believers there would be a messenger and an interpreter.
@Brian Thanks also for the exchange. God bless you
It can def work it falls more on doctrine You can be from the same domination and not work Example would be my domination Baptist You’ll have some churches like mine where we practice modesty more “strictly” in church and a little less outside of church (Ex no getting tattoos) Where as other churches may allow people to wear and do whatever they like whether in church or outside The difference can tear a couple In the end what’s more important is how both ppl churches practice the Word of God
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Theological positions can change - I graduated from Bible college 10 years ago and I don’t hold all the same views I did then. We have to be willing to listen and not hold onto things so tightly that we miss what God might be saying/doing. Just because we are part of a denomination, doesn’t mean we agree with everything, so there has to be dialogue. As much as charismatics get things wrong, Reformed theology goes too far the other way - but we grow and bear fruit by learning from eachother.
Just to add, so I would struggle with someone who doesn’t believe healing and miracles are for today - it denies someone their breakthrough and a testimony to bring God glory. Theological discourse only goes so far, especially in reaching intellectuals/skeptics who need evidence beyond “this is what the Bible says”. But in relationship terms, if someone is open to allowing their theology to change, then it wouldn’t be a total dealbreaker.
I personally wouldn't date a non catholic. I was previously reformed Presbyterian so I know it just wouldn't work.
@Eoghan hey I was too, not sure I agree although I have see how RPs tend to be hostile to RCCs. It would depend on the Evangelical but yeah Calvinist/Reformed types are pretty hard on eveyone ..lol.
@Julio Yeah that's true, I could see it somewhat working maybe with a high church Anglican or even Lutheran as view on sacraments are more aligned. Any form of baptist, non denominational or reformed would end in disaster. I think ultimately though, they would need to convert.
Three words: blood, ink, and pencil. E.g. Pencil - worship style, coffee, flags Ink - baptism and women's roles Blood - Jesus is alive, the Trinity Blood - easy. With ink, you should have broad agreement. Pencil is just detail. Con-evangelical people I've dated love my church's emphasis on preaching but find it difficult with the worship style and practice of charismatic gifts and allowing women to preach. More charismatic/Pentecostal types don't like that we don't allow women to be elders.
At risk of sounding spiritually proud, as a women, I believe it’s incredibly important. Not the label itself, but the pursuit of biblical truth and sound theology, which unfortunately, can be something that’s only encouraged under some denominations. As someone who aligns with reformed theology, I’d be hesitant to fall under the leadership of someone who’s satisfied with the teaching of the charismatic/Pentecostal church. Everyone has their own list of what’s important I guess.
Completely agree Kathryn! I am also reformed and have the same concerns. It can make dating a bit more challenging, but worth it
@Kathryn completely agree with this, and I don't think it's prideful to hold this view.
I saw relationships where the wife is Pentecostal and the husband is Baptist and it works very good. But I think... 🤔let's think if someone is Protestant with a Catholic, is not gonna work. In my case, I am Non-denomination, but I would agree with any other Deno only Catholic guy I think No.
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I think it all comes down to the people. The whole situation (question) would change if they are willing to actually talk about/explain their own personal theological beliefs rather than that of their denomination.
It would be difficult as I think shared beliefs are really important. For me, if a person wasn't pro-life then it couldn't work (you'd think all Christians would be prolife but sadly not). I'd also struggle if they didn't believe in Biblical creation and the baptism of believers only. I'm not keen on Pentecostal practices, especially speaking in unknown tongues. So yeah, there's a few 😏
@Stephen I agree with you. If someone is pro-choice then they sadly agree to the murder of innocent babies in the bomb. Sugar-coat it all you want. It's murder. How could any so-called Christian agree to that? It's a sad world we're living in. There's lots of false converts out there too. People who think they're saved when their actions speak otherwise. They bear no fruit.
@Stephen A big one for me is the Kids topic. That's a deal breaker for me. The solid Christian denominations aren't a problem. It's the "wishy-washy" ones you need to watch for.
@Scott What do you mean by the kids topic?
I'm a born-again Christian and I don't know anything like that. Either you follow Jesus Christ and are born again in the spirit or you are not. With Jesus Christ there is no demonstration. 🙏🙌
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My own experience: you have to pick the important theological hills to die on, otherwise there will be friction of conscience. Examples of key issues I have experienced first hand - Credo baptism vs Paedobaptism - Lordship Discipleship vs Free Grace (and the multitude of qualifiers between sanctification and repentance, the role of Lordship vs being children of God, etc.) - Perscripted Will of God (1 Thess 4:3) vs "Word from The Lord" in Charismatic circles. - role of works in the joint life.
I don’t necessarily think denominations are a deal breaker. There needs to be an alignment of theology and a compatibility on church style, we would need to agree a church we could worship at and serve together.
The gospel basics of repentance, forgiveness, atonement etc are however dealbreakers. As is a life in submission to God’s word lived out for his glory and kingdom.
@Simon Agreed.
I am Orthodox and many denominations teach very different things to our Church. So, probably not, unless the person wanted to come closer to or embrace Orthodoxy.
No sure why this comment is hidden. I don’t mean to be disrespectful in anyway… but within your denomination (just like other denominations) couples get divorced. If they believe the same theology, adhere to the same practices and are part of the same community of the same tradition…shouldn’t there be no divorce at all? Are there other things that perhaps would be more essential for a long lasting relationship than just being of the same denomination?
@Marina agreed.
To completely honest we wouldn't have this question if man wasn't constantly trying to change or cherry pick from God's word to have it fit our lifestyle. That's NOT picking up our cross and fully surrendering to his will when we choose from column A and a little from column B. If we all agreed from day 1 from when Paul and the disciples gave this message and people who followed stuck with it we wouldn't be in this boat.
It's such a terrible thing when "Christians" say they are OK with whatever denomination or theology as long as we just "love" everyone. Sadly narrow is the gate that few shall find truth and wide is the road to destruction that many will enter it. We need discernment we need to be in the word we need to allow God to guide us not our emotions. This goes for our relationships too. So no this absolutely doesn't work. A Baptist and methodist don't match nor does a catholic and JW.
Its very important to stay in same denomination. Needs to be equally yoked. Not any other denomination or will have fighting. God says the man is head and needs the bride to follow and go to his church. If listening to woman like Adam and Solomon did, they fell spiritually (sinned). So best is find in same denomination. Some believe in Oneness and would not work with Trinity believers. I had an INC woman wanted me join and marry I said no for that reason. Focus on God first as priority.
Second of all. Man is head of house. Read thr Bibke and you will see all from Adam to Christ. Christ will never change for His Bride. THE Bride is supposed to. Therefore, it is woman but be sure thr church she goes to has sound doctrine matching to the scriptures. If not then dont marry that person.
This is a very interesting question. On one hand, theological truth is paramount. On the other, I am certain there will be theologians in heaven who argued with each other while on earth. I hope to come back later to elaborate, but the questions I'd ask myself are: 1.) Would God approve of me switching to my spouse's denomination? 2.) Would I be okay with our children choosing my spouse's denomination? If the answer to either question is no, I'd say to choose someone else.
I have friends from different denominations so I don’t see why a romantic relationship would be different. I’ve also been in a few different churches through the years so I don’t feel like I’m bound by one tradition. (That’s why my profile just says ‘Christian’!) There’s some theology I would want to be on the same page about, but other than that I would be happy – as long as we could freely discuss the ridiculous traditions of their and/or my backgrounds 😄
@Amanda Totally relate to that!
Personally, I don't really care about denominations. What people write about their faith in their profiles is much more revealing. Even within denominations, people differ to some extent, so it's no guarantee that your views will match. Having said that, I don't mind theological differences as long as they don't go into crazy conspiracy territory 😁
@Georg so true about views and convictions differing from person to person within a denomination or even a local congregation/church.
Acredito que seja um desafio e em especial quando envolve filhos Mas se houver respeito e liberdade pode dar certo
Honestly, it's hard enough to find other single Christians in my opinion. Can't afford to be too picky haha😅
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